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    Daniela
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    I want to play with the color palette of an ifc, to indicate the states of my production, and that these changes, predetermined, are saved and then shared, and at the same time that it is in a massive way for the various projects by means of either a excel or a txt as a connection of my administrative program with the viewer

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      Is this a question? I am not sure what you are asking. If it is how to recolour your model in Solibri based on a production shedule then I would say you have to use classifications. However you are talking about a web viewer and are specifically mentioning ifc so I guess you want to modify your ifc itself based on a file connection. Well, I do not know your workflow, but I would do this right outta my modelling software via a dedicated model view definition where the elements are given the desired graphic override based on eithert imported or synced property values matching the production phase.

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        Tengo un departamento de ingeniería, que genera mis planos y me entrega un IFC,pero me interesa saber si este software es capaz de seguir el avance de esa pieza que se está fabricando con un color que se actualiza automáticamente cuando cambia de etapa de fabricación, la idea es que la información sea desde nuestro sistema y automáticamente se vaya actualizando. No podemos interferir directamente con el departamento de ingeniería por lo que el cambio debe realizarse luego de que ellos nos entreguen los planos, por esto mi pregunta es , ¿hay alguna manera de entregarle la información del proceso de fabricación a su software para que actualice el color según corresponda?. Saludos

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          @Daniela

          Ok, what you are saying is that you get an IFC from you planners and you want to now paint it based on the construction progress.

          The answer is basically yes. You can change the colour of elements in the viewer based on a classification schema. See the video below for more information on that functionality.

          Imho the easiest way to achieve this is if your elements in the IFC have a property, let’s call it e.g. “Construction status” and the values are True/False, to keep it simple for now. In Solibri you can create a classification which makes all elements with a True Value e.g. green and a False Value of this property e.g. white.

          So then and while you want to add new built elements to show up in green. Therefore the cleanest approach would be to change these information in the IFC authoring tool you are using and then exporting there a new IFC which replaces your IFC in Solibri et voilà. Done.

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          However, I understand that life is not always simple like that, right Daniela? You wrote No podemos interferir directamente con el departamento de ingeniería por lo que el cambio debe realizarse luego de que ellos nos entreguen los planos …

          Well, for various reasons you need to work with the IFC Model you already have and update this one. So, yes you can alter the colour via a classification, but then you would have to change the classification (filter).

          But based on which information? That’s actually the key question I have your you

          Here you have some inspirations for you workflow

          a) The fastest would be if you can exactly filter for your “completed” elements in the IFC you have and then create logic classification rules based on how you decide what has been built and which elements are coming next.
          E.g.: Slabs are completed / Beams are to be scheduled

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          b) You could also create a ITO table of all the elements with a property like the GUID (or whatever helps you= and then export is as an XLS where you can then modify it in excel sheet and then reimport this list again in Solibri’s classification table where changes are instantly detected. This would be the advanced approach.

          c) Or you can even manually classify elements via a drop down selection in Solibri. So you can at least see what elements you are changing. But be aware that this can take some time.

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          All of those methods can be achieved on a very smart approach or in a very cumbersome way … depending on the information you have. If you tell me what is your criteria, how you know if an element is built or not then you would get a more precise answer.

          Anyhow, have a look here for how to “paint” your model.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc_rtb47vPI&feature=emb_logo

          All the best,
          Julian

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            Daniela
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            Este seria un ejemplo de los proyectos que manejamos a diario, la mayoría con mas 9000 elementos que componen nuestras estructuras, y los estados de fabricación que me gustaría representar, visualmente son los que tengo en mi Xls que serian los siguientes:
            Por Fabricación
            En Fabricación
            Culminada la fabricación
            En pintura
            Por despachar
            Despachado

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            Plano Rev Marca Descripcion Taller Cant Total Kg Uni Kg Tot m2 Uni Total por Fab en Fab en Neg en Pint x Desp Desp
            F1 A F1AC ANCLAJE DIMA 16 19,2 307,2 0,044 16 0 0 16 0 0 0
            F2 A F2AC ANCLAJE DIMA 96 11,8 1132,8 0,034 96 0 0 96 0 0 0
            F3 A F3AC ANCLAJE DIMA 40 4,3 172 0,038 40 0 0 40 0 0 0
            F4 A F4AC ANCLAJE DIMA 48 20,2 969,6 0,057 48 0 0 48 0 0 0
            F5 A F5AC ANCLAJE DIMA 36 3,4 122,4 0,031 36 0 0 36 0 0 0
            F772 A F772AB ANGULO DE BORDE - 4 55,7 222,8 2,839 4 4 0 0 0 0 0
            F773 A F773AB ANGULO DE BORDE - 4 68 272 3,468 4 4 0 0 0 0 0
            F1006 A F1006C COLUMNA CALQ 1 2726,1 2726,1 40,394 1 0 0 0 0 1 0
            F101 A F101C COLUMNA LB 1 2535,2 2535,2 40,693 1 0 0 0 0 1 0

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              Daniela
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              Manejamos como 20 proyectos de esas magnitudes por lo que de ser manualmente seria algo eterno y nos haría falta mas que dos colores para la representación visual de los mismos.

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                @Daniela

                As far as I can tell you from the information you gave me (as far as I have understood them) is that the limitation of the software won’t be your problem. You can of course have more than two colours for example. That was just to show the concept.

                However, from the screenshot of your xls-sheet I can not really say how your filter should look like, or if it is even possible. Is there any chance that you can filter by component, or ifc entity or by Building Storey or by Marca, or combinations of it …?

                In my previous reply I have elaborated your possibilities, but now it’s your turn. You have to check if you can apply any logic filters or not.

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                  Daniela
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                  Buenas tardes, el Xls no es del IFC, este Xls es de mi programa administrativo el cual quiero unir para realizar las modificaciones del IFC con lo que me gustaría ver visualmente, por lo que allí es donde quiero unirme a ustedes ya sea muy bien con el software que me comento al inicio o con el modelador de IFC que tienen. no poseo la experiencia para trabajar con alguno de ellos pero estoy abierta a todo aprendizaje

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                    @Daniela said in CHANGE OF COLORS IN IFC FOR SHARING:

                    el Xls no es del IFC, este Xls es de mi programa administrativo

                    If there is a key value to find your IFC elements then you can filter them automatically. If you cannot apply any logic or have no concept how to solve this problemo - regardless the fact if someone is familiar with a software or not - then what are you expecting? There is no magic button which will automatically do the work for you, that’s for sure but this is not a software issue or limitation but rather a sign to question the workflow itself.

                    Have also a look here.
                    https://society.solibri.com/topic/873/group-ito-by-custom-parameter-created-in-solibri

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                      Daniela
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                      Estoy intentando descargar la prueba a ver si puedo ejecutar como me comenta pero se genero un error y no me deja volver

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