General Discussion

Hi. I am not too familiar Revit Area Plans, but the space grouping isn’t directly related to it, but works through geometry and classifications.

In its most simple form, space grouping starts by finding spaces that are classified with a classification called “spaceGrouping”. This classification has special handling in the classification view in that it changes display name to “Space Grouping” when defined.

After the spaces to be grouped are defined by the classification, the grouping itself is done based on the geometry of the spaces. A “Groups” relation is created for the spaces:
a97db158-ba1b-4d9a-ad76-a6b9603c8b80-image.png

and the direction of the relation tells if the space contains or is contained by the other space.

So the short answer is: it is possible to group spaces for any model as long as spaceGrouping classification is provided.

Hi. The next (currently unreleased) version of the Java API will support modifying issues so creating a custom rule to modify issues would be possible, even though not really the intended use of rules.

Hey Mats,

if you only want to check the quantity (e.g. volume) you can try the rule #234 as a workaround:

Bildschirmfoto 2020-07-08 um 18.00.48.png

The rule is created to check whether e.g. reinforcement is located in a wall correctly. But I use this rule for a lot of different checks, whether the inner component is located in an outer component. Maybe is not a perfect solution for your case – but suitable until the new function is added to #206. I would activate both checks and set “0 mm” to “Max.” at “Beliebige Flächen” = “any surface” (sry for not changing the language for the screenshot – I’m in the middle of a check).

Hope that works!

@dothedew

If the pipes are having property sets with diameter that should work in your case.

a93edf59-6635-4e33-bc24-f7c19d174dcd-image.png

a4b5812b-dc87-4262-9e8f-7f47a74b04d6-image.png

I can confirm this is a bit tricky. I remeber that I was having troubles with it when I tried to change it. I just made a quick check and it seems like that there is something either not properly working or it is just not user friendly at all.

Made a quick test and just copied the auto-text rows with a rather similiar outcome.

d6b3eb42-b1aa-4131-9fa8-a0ceff0a9f0e-image.png

After that test I had the idea that maybe it’s just not possible to assign auto-text multiple times and tried to shift elements. Then I got a similiar result like you did. So, what are we missing here?

@JMann many thanks, I tried it and It is working, great 👍

Thank you very much for your answers. I always use option number 1 myself and simply superimpose the data set in other viewers to be on the safe side. There everything is displayed correctly. Number 2 is then only the solution to this problem for now (if one even notices the problem, which is almost impossible for larger projects).

I’ll wait for further feedback, maybe someone else has this problem.

Thanks a lot

Hi. It is not possible to check “contains” with OR logic, only exact contents with the “One of” operator. So if exact matching is enough for you, you can use the following

205e77f4-732d-461b-b89a-236dc6a5dd4c-image.png

But if exact matching is not suitable, one option is to use the new Information API (requires basic Java development skills https://society.solibri.com/topic/563/information-api) which can be used to create any arbitrary logic. In this case the custom information would define a new property ContainsXYZJ and would return true if one of them was contained in the original Name property. This new ContainsXYZJ property could then be used to filter only those components that have ContainsXYZJ as TRUE.

@mwhdejong To my knowledge Autodesk has a Shared Parameter file that should work for both Doors and Windows, though I am not 100% certain. I’d have to check to be sure (currently very busy with projects).

You can also check the Autodesk SourceForge / Github page to see if there is any additional information there.
Hope this helps!

Autodesk GitHub: https://github.com/Autodesk/revit-ifc/issues
Autodesk SourceForge: https://sourceforge.net/p/ifcexporter/discussion/general/

ec59d10a-be7f-4f86-ab02-cc72c79b1a9e-image.png

@shapeless

description
The description fields shows the description value of element defined in the IFC model…

system
The system field shows which system the element belongs.
It is usually available for building service elements like ducts and pipes.
The system can be e.g. “Outgoing Air”.

3e5259dc-413d-4c01-8a06-44ee8d35052d-image.png

model categories
The model categories field shows which model categories the model of element belongs.
It is filled only when the user have set models to categories.
They can be edited using the command from popup menu of the model tree.
The model categories can be e.g. “Building Services”

c5941283-df05-4920-8d19-09c55fdfbb13-image.png

ok thank you for the information!

space 3rd.jpg

@tonigyllenberg thanks for the fast response…i will give it a go the end of the week.

@cburgess as far as I know, the “issue” tab is created when an element is linked to a check - meaning it is connected to a problem.

@shapeless the “component” column determines if the condition is “OR” or “AND”. If you have set it to be the same type of component (also “any component”) the condition is “AND”. That is why the first setup where all the rows have “any component” it tries to match the component to all the conditions. To make it work, you can choose “one of” and multiple classification values on one row:

Include | any component | classification xy | one of | slab, roof, wall

When creating a rule, it helps to first choose the rule under ruleset manager and then open the parameters of this rule under checking layout. There you can test what the filter is returning by pressing “=” to set the components to be visualized by the selection basket. This way you can make sure the filter is working as you’d expect.

I hope this helps,

best,
Lauri

Hello there!
THX for the quick response.

Best Thomas