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Hi @Harmen-Jorritsma,
Thanks for the lineup. BIMCollab sure makes these things easier to manage. Unfortunately, sometimes plain bcf is all that is available on a project.
I have to disagree on Solibri Issues not being able to exist without Components, if that is what you mean in your opening statement. There is a button in Solibri that removes Components from Issues.

@sebastian-nybäck Ah thank you!

I believe I ran into the requested overview in a new topic: IFC entity vs SMC Component
https://society.solibri.com/topic/1056/ifc-entity-vs-smc-component

Good question. I ran into this recently as well for a customer. I tried using the baseQuantities but in my case these weren’t perfect either so correct Quantities would be great.

FYI - Building Smart has defined the Quantities as we would like it.
in IFC2x3: “Total area of the covering in the elevation view taking into account possible openings. The exact definition and calculation rules depend on the method of measurement used.”
in IFC4: “Sum of all net areas of the covering facing the space. All openings that is included in the covering are subtracted.”

@jsn said in Classification based on location:

@lasse-lindqvist said in Classification based on location:

Hi. I don’t think it is possible in a sane way right now, but I think we have a good solution to this soon, and I hope I get to present it in Solibri Society.

I bring this back up again as I am curious what the good solution would have been.
I am struggling here with a similar issue and this might be a help …

Hi. So what I was referring back then was the unpublished Custom information API. https://society.solibri.com/topic/563/information-api

With that you could make any kind of “rules” based on the coordinate values and group the components to classes that way. This information can then be used in a classification or a rule filter parameter. It does require some Java development skills, but is otherwise really easy to implement and then use.

Very interresting, Graaf! 🙂

@tonigyllenberg Hi Toni, thank you for your comments.

When I first used BCF Live on a project, I already created a presentation for a workshop and wanted to push that into BIM Track, so I synchronised Solibri with BIM Track and then used “Import Issues” - “Selected Issues” and selected the prepared presentation in BCF Live tab.
When the presentation was imported, I was not able to see any comments I left under each slide, therefore I had to type them back again. Once that has been done I was left with two similar comments under each slide, please see the screenshot attached:
BIMTrack.PNG
I believe this issue can only occur if this is the first time you synchronise your SMC with BIM Track and you have already prepared a presentation for a workshop.

Many thanks,

Zhandos Telman

We use Roles like a Template for most of the users because of high standardization in early project phases. Therefore the Roles serve as a perfect Start Kit for the needed Filtes, Classifications, Standard Ruleset and ITOs so that the users have the most important ressources ready for using when they start Solibri. (Saves some time especially when using Solibri Live with Archicad)

However, the management of the Roles could indeed be improved. While some things like setting server paths can be achieved by manipulating the .xml manually, others require a smart folder management e.g. when ressources are updated and used by different roles). And of course users should not have write permisison in those folders as this could easily destroy your work accidently. So, I like what’s possible, but I think there is space for improvements in terms of usability.

@cpreidel said in Automating IfcOptimizer ... Did you know?:

Hey all!

Recently I have been talking to customers about the IFC Optimizer, and some asked if it is possible to automate the Optimizer a bit.

Answer: Yes, you can! The application can be executed via console commands so that you can easily create a batch file (on Windows). Just try something like this

for %%f in (*.ifc) do ( "c:\Program Files\Solibri\IFCOptimizer\Solibri IFC Optimizer.exe" -in="%cd%\%%f" -out="%cd%" )

To make life easier, just extract StackOptimizer.bat from StackOptimizer.zip into the folder with your IFCs and execute. Additionally, I added a Readme.txt file, which contains a bit more information on how to use the console commands.

Have fun!

Then i have another question about this thread as well.

Is it possible to run this feature in the same batch file as the Autorun batch file? So we can first optimize the files and in the same action they will update these files into the .smc file.

thanks.

They are not the same…

Location/ nearest space is one space
Relations / neares spaces is usually more spaces…

I find it confusing…

@lasse-lindqvist

Thank you for your reply.
I also noticed the data being swapped.
However, if I just replace the relevant part of the tekla IFC, it rotates 90 degrees. So I am wondering if something else is affecting it. I have also attached the IFC that I rewrote below.

original
#42= IFCRECTANGLEPROFILEDEF(.AREA.,‘\X2\0043004F004E25A1003600350030002A003300350030\X0’,#41,350.,650.);

modified
#42= IFCRECTANGLEPROFILEDEF(.AREA.,‘\X2\0043004F004E25A1003600350030002A003300350030\X0’,#41,650.,350.);

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Girder_TEKLA_swapped_data.ifc

Thanks Jeroen! 🙂

I assume that the Java API completely enumerates the Solibri component types: https://solibri.github.io/Developer-Platform/9.12.1/javadoc/com/solibri/smc/api/model/ComponentType.html

There are a number of component types that don’t trivially map to IFC by naming convention, but most of them can be guessed:

Assembly : IfcElementAssembly? Cable : IfcCable* CableCarrier: ? Ceiling: ? Compartment: ? Duct: IfcDuct* ElectricHeater: IfcSpaceHeater? FireCompartment: IfcFireSuppressionTerminal? Floor: ? GasTerminal : IfcGasTerminalType? Layer: ? Model: ? Opening: IfcOpeningElement? Pipe: IfcPipe* SpaceBoundary: IfcRelSpaceBoundary? Unknown: fallback for everything else?

I would be glad if someone can help to complete this list of not directly matched component types.

A number of (concrete) IFC entity types are not reflected as component type and I would expect them to map to the corresponding Solibri component type of the closest IFC supertype. IfcDistributionControlElement for example does not map by name to a Solibri component type, but its supertype IfcDistributionElement does. So does IfcObject, but it would be further away in terms of inheritance. Can anyone confirm this?

I was also wondering which IFC objects actually appear as components, likely these are any entities of type IfcObjectDefinition (with all subtypes)?

Thanks for the clarification Toni. My main concern is that by connecting every 5 seconds it might slow down the pc. I suppose that the new workflow encourages small, incremental updates and therefore the uploading/downloading process should be quick

Hello @Xavier!

As @lasse-lindqvist mentioned, 9.12.2 will remain an internal (and beta) release. We have been working behind the scenes on some upcoming goodies, and more news on that will come during Q1 🙂

All of the features and functionalities of 9.12.2 will be available with the public release of 9.12.3, which is currently in development and is aimed to be available for beta testing in about 2 weeks, toward the end of January. Typically the public release is available another 2 weeks after that (mid-February).

Kind regards,
Toni on behalf of the Solibri team

@xavier said in Solibri 9.12.1: BCF Live Connector ony connects if I execute Solibri with admin rigths:

I found the solution, from Solibri forum, and it works!

Today I could not load the BIMcollab projects anymore, strangely I could delete the stored connection but not add it anymore afterwards … restarting did not help - the button seemed to be not working anymore …

… and then I remembered this post and deleted the .solibri folder and now it works again.
So thanks for that 😉